I know that the TCM isn't part of the ECM like with the 411 PCM's and that they're separate entities. I'll be watching the outcome. Chevy Hardcore NEWSLETTER - SIGN UP FREE! The TCM2650 requires a throttle position signal and and engine RPM in order to make this function. If you have your heart set on a six-speed automatic to back your LS, consider TCI's 6X transmission. 1969 Mustang Sportsroof - sold Unlike GM's factory six-speeds, which are 'double overdrive' with both fifth and sixth gears . But for the vast majority of would-be swappers, an automatic transmission is the preferred gearbox. 2007 and newer have the correct ECM calibration. sales@psiconversion.com Chevrolet Performance is breaking new ground with the launch of the new Connect-and-Cruise crate powertrain systems. LS engine choices now range from the common 300 hp 4.8 L and 5.3 L naturally aspirated engines to over 600 hp supercharged versions. The LS2 engine will be referenced throughout this guide unless a specific LS3 difference is noted. I'm going with a gen 5 454 and I'm trying to decide between a 700R4 and the 6L80E. The headers are mandrel bent and TIG-welded. Doing the transmission right for your particular LS swap will involve not just the big items like the gearbox itself, the crossmember, driveshaft, converter, and flexplate, but supporting components such as the shifter and control electronics. Supporting up to 650 lb-ft of torque, this transmission is built tough. Engine Type: LS9, CTSV LSA, Camaro LSA, Crate LSA, CTSV LS2, SUV 5.3L, SUV LS2. Chevrolet Monte Carlo / Monte Carlo SS / Malibu . Kevin Winstead, TCI. Gen III Chevrolet Engine 6L80E/6L90E 6 Speed Conversion Kit. It was hard to pull the big block combo but this setup will be extremely fun and cruiser friendly . No changes to the gauges. What's Included: Complete 6.2L LS3 Engine w/ 22K Miles (Intake to Oil Pan) 6L80E 6-Speed Automatic Transmission; Transmission Crossmember; Complete Engine Wiring Harness; ECM Computer; Complete Front Accessories w/ Brackets and Bolts; Motor Mounts Fully GM assembled long block :chair: Seriously thoughthe other day I saw a C5 rear end and thoughthmmmmif BMW and Porsche can have independent suspensions:juggle[1]:and a manual trans. I am not a professional mechanic nor a fabricator but i know my way around a car. A properly built version can handle 25 percent more than that., As far as the 6L80E, its a much larger transmission and will sometimes require some clearancing in musclecar applications. In its favor is the fact that even with factory internals, its a pretty sturdy gearbox. PCSSFT4000 - 6L/8L Shifter Pigtail Harness. We'll send you the most interesting Chevy Hardcore articles, news, car features, and videos every week. I modified the original crossmember, and used a 3-Bolt Adapter Flange Yoke for the driveshaft. Build your own custom newsletter with the content you love from Chevy Hardcore, directly to your inbox, absolutely FREE! going to buy a ls3 & a 6l80e out of a 2009 g8 tomorrow anyone have one of these in a car how hard will it be to put this in my 66 chevelle. On the 700R4, TV cable adjustment is critical to transmission performance, and many a 700R4 has died an early, ugly death because the owner wasnt aware of the necessity of setting it correctly. Rocker Arms: Cast Roller Trunnion, 1.7:1 Ratio GM LS3 L94 6.2L COMPLETE 4X4 LS SWAP DROPOUT ENGINE TRANSMISSION 6L80 98K MILES. LS1Tech.com Drag Racing Transmission Options Discussion, http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Transmission-Controller-19212657-P722C436.aspx, http://www.dragtimes.com/parts/6L80matic-Transmission-Swap-Kit_160551367390.html. If you are looking at a Camaro and it has a 6L80 that motor in it is the L99. For owners of classic musclecars already equipped with a serviceable, original automatic, this will be the simplest (and least expensive) solution when doing an LS swap. Sorry, please correct the following errors: Thank you for subscribing to our newsletter. Though aftermarket support for all aspects of doing an LS swap in popular vehicles is good and growing (Holley is a good example), you can expect some level of fabrication and adaptation will be necessary. Oct 1, 2016 4,544 Waupaca WI. PSI C10 T-Shirtl - Wire It Up And Fire It Up! The tastefully finished, classic Defender 90 has a fire-breathing 6.2L 430 horsepower General Motor LS3 V8 under the hood. My truck has a cam, headers, intake, etc. Specifications: Copyright 2023 Pace Performance. We do not act as an intermediary, you must contact GM Performance Parts directly for any warranty claims. but it'd still be an expensive swap and not worth the money imo. Would the throttle control be link to the foot pedal on ls2 goats? Zero Gravity Performance is a company with over 30 years experience working in the automotive performance market.We are located in Mesa Arizona and have been building high performance transmissions for over 25 years. The LS3 was first released in the 2008 Corvette and was the most powerful Corvette engine to date. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. GEN IV Engine w/ 6L80E Standalone Harness. In addition to wiring harnesses, PSI carries Holley Products, Vintage Air A/C, Dakota Digital Gauges, HPTuners and PCM programming, Fuel Pump Kits, Engine Sensors, Extension Harnesses, Replacement GM connector pigtails and a complete line of hardware to complete your conversion needs! Super simple chassis connections - no OEM fuseboxes needed. Anyone doing a 6l80e swap on a second gen ? Spencer is going to be the "Terror" of the Gulf Coast when he's finished. . A stock 6L80E transmission with a proper tune can typically hold up to 750 horsepower, says Winstead. The TCM-2650 Gateway will allow you to get the GM 6L45E, 6L50E, 6L80E and 6L90E transmission to operate with any engine that you can get it bolted to. The cheapest way to control any GM electronic transmission is to use the stock ECU. CPSLS36L80E GM LS3 430HP Engine with 6L80E 6-Speed Auto Transmission Combo Package. The Chevrolet Performance Connect and Cruise is the quickest and easiest way to get your project hot rod or muscle car up and running; . Your chosen transmission and engine combination will also determine what you need for transmission control. CLICK HERE FOR THE LS CONPONENT ID GUIDE. Sep 23, 2010. you can get the 6.2 and convert it to an ls3 with the lifters, cam, and other things. I am going to try and find a shallow pan for it as it hangs lower than a 700r4 but all is good. Displacement: 376 CID, 6.2L Will it Fit without much hassle and is the transmission itself gonna hold up to a heavy foot. Login to your account to access helpful features to expedite your checkout experience. The LS3 is filled with components designed for high performance and longevity. Look no further! Per Winstead, You can have a converter custom-built for the application, or you can change the flexplate to one that has the correct bolt pattern and accommodates the different pilot length of the older type torque converter.. Perhaps their other products. Whats better? Between the two options, a flexplate swap using the original converter will be cheaper, but considering that the new engine is likely going to have a very different powerband than the one coming out, a torque converter with a more aggressive stall speed is likely to be the more desirable way to go. Pics ? Everything related to the interior and exterior of your vehicle can be found here. Jul 11, 2018 #9 Bandit723 Veteran Member. I'm running a holley 302-1 oil pan, custom motor mounts, and a wiring harness from PSI. Throughthe requisite TCI EZ-TCU controller, its compatible with tap shift button or paddle shifters as well. Engine Displacement. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Harnesses are designed with 4 - 5 feet of length from the rear of the cylinder head to the PCM mounting position under the vehicle dashboard. Quote from: Turbo95max on July 18, 2011, 10:06:40 PM. Re: 86 Monte Carlo LS swap. Block: Cast Aluminum with 6 bolt cross bolted main caps Click Here to view or download warranty form. IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!!"! My friend I grew up with who is helping me with the build is a sharp dude when it comes to building cars, but I'd certainly like to hear from someone that's installed the 6L80 in a model like mine. I am currently in a slow progress doing a L99/6L80E swap on my -68 convertibel :lookinup: I just found this, I have an 80 and put a 496 mild big block 625 hp easy-going hydraulic cam motor. It was designed around our 3rd gen F-body and Moroso oil pans. $ 819.99. Save. The oil pan would end up hanging down too low. Gonna go as radical as my budget allows! Yeah Wayne is more into reworks of stock harnesses. See more ideas about 1957 chevy bel air, chevy bel air, new engine. Or Tucson or hurlburt if my BOP and move gets approved. Paid 9k Engine runs great and bought from a certified shop. Intake / 211 deg. 08 black tbss 2wd-4in cai,ls1 efans, pcmforless tune,Attitude cam,yank sstb3600,150shot nitrous,DJM 2 inch lower,pcmforless trans cooler, kooks 1 7/8th long tubes,ls7 lifters. We offer either 6L80E and 6L90E (additional core fee) transmissions kits. Trans pan ground clearance is the challenge with that transmission. With the 4L60E and 4L80E applications, there are some very easy solutions available nowadays, asserts Winstead. Turns out the pins on the connector for the crank sensor was incorrect. Designed for Use w/ Swap Headers, Exhaust Manifolds & Exhaust Systems Developed for this Engine Swap. Yep, dropping an LS3 (or even a wet-sump LS7, LS9 or LSA) into your C5 is cake in terms of mechanics. The samecan be said for TH400 and 4L80/85. LS3 with 6L80e swap into a 4th gen Camaro. A forum community dedicated to 1st generation Chevy Camaros owners and enthusiasts. Good drivetrain, Trans is basically the modern electronic overdrive version of the tough turbo 400. Did a little more paying attention to build threads on pro-touring.com that were going with the 6l80 & 90 transmissions. The LS3 is filled with components designed for high performance and longevity. I'm not sure because racing or performance driving is not high on my list for this build. BonzoHansen said: Please contact PSI for more information. Even if youre not intent on keeping the original transmission as part of the swap, there are good reasons to consider a new non-overdrive transmission to back your LS. CPP Engine Controller and Harness Come discuss mods, horsepower, engine specs and more! much easier swap than the 6L and you can make em hold tons of power. Re: Cranks and fuel but no spark- LS7/LS3 engine. I would cut the floor and get it over with. I've had both transmissions, the 4L60 and the 6L80 as daily drivers. They are designed just like our LS fuel injected controller kits in that they are pre-calibrated to function after they are hooked up and plugged in., Like the TCI EZ-TCU, for non-EFI applications, the Chevy controllers need a way to get the load/throttle position data that the vacuum signal, kickdown lever, or TV cable provided in the earlier all-mechanical transmissions. Connecting Rods: Powdered Metal Steel Also keep in mind the 6L80 is a big transmission and will not fit the tunnel without cutting and modding the tunnel. If you are swapping a 4LXX-series transmission, then you need a new flexplate like the billet SFI 29.2 unit from TCI (part No. For the TH400, the solution is the simplest (if also the least flexible in terms of transmission tuning) a singlevacuum connection to the modulator on the transmission will do, making the interface with either a carbureted LS or one running factory-style multi-point EFI straightforward. of torque @ 4600 RPM Great Opition for tranny's. Moving to an overdrive gearbox does have some special considerations to keep in mind in terms of space and controlling lockup and line pressure, though, and in the case of a fully electronic transmission, overall control. 355hp/360tq in 113 Degree AZ Heat PB 1/4 ET 13.19. I still have to figure out the shifter, air intake and exhaust. The LS engine family has grown tremendously since the first LS1 left Detroit back in 1997. 69 Nova Turbo 6.0 - in progress, goal 750whp. Engine, Transmission, Transfer case mounts to Install a GM LS3 Engine and G 6L80E automatic transmission & Land Rover LT230 transfer case into your Land Rover Defender 90/110/130. just go . Check us out at www.spsengines.com. Sounds good. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 2012 camaro 1ss LS3 6.2L V8 L99 Engine 48k miles with 6L80 transmission at the best online prices at eBay! I followed an 02 Camaro wiring diagram and the wire colors matched the pins in the connector. That's nearly 14 percent more power and torque from a simple camshaft change! Jan 13, 2014. Based around the 4L80E (and fitting wherever a 4L80E will fit), the 6X is a true six-speed transmission that TCI rates at 850-plus horsepower. I'm real curious what it would take to get a 6L80e to fit. Per Sampsel, For 2016, we are launching twonew controller kits that are carbureted crate engine specific. These Mounts are made to work with the transfer case to Transmission adapter that is not included in this kit. 399860). VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 2014 Chevrolet SS 6.2L LS3 Engine w/ 6L80E 6-Speed Automatic Trans 70K Miles at the best online prices at eBay! What donors come with a 4WD 6L90 transmissions? The specially calibrated controllers are designed for retrofit installation in older vehicles, for easier and quicker installation and operation, without the need for third-party tuning. My plan is to use the Motor/Tranny for my 2006 Jeep LJ. GM engineers took a production LS3 6.2L (376 cubic inches) and swapped the stock camshaft for the racing-inspired LS Hot Cam (P/N 88958753), which delivered a stunning 495 horsepower and 473 lb.-ft. of torque. LS3 430HP Connect & Cruise Crate Powertrain System W/ 6L80-E - IN STOCK !! Recommended Fuel: 92 Octane Chevrolet Performance 6L80E 6-Speed Automatic Transmission Package 1969 Camaro LSA 6L90E AME subframe and IRS - sold. The LS3 and Truck 6.2's idle between 5-600 rpm which is great off road, the 480 HP engine like 750-800 rpm. I tried uploading pics not sure what the deal is. has been added successfully to your wishlist. It took me a while to do, but if I had this information as I was doing it, I am pretty sure I could complete it in a 3-day weekend. He told me about his progress, but I not an expert on tunes. I've been researching the swap for about a year and been looking for the 6.2 and yes its a complete package ecu harness engine and trans for a little over 3k its the best price I've found around here for a motor with that mileage and as a complete unit, And I ordered the ls swap book haha. Holley recommends 3.0/3.5 driveline angle. This thread will mainly be my experience of actually ONLY putting the engine and trans in the car and the modifications i need to make it all fit. I havent found any write ups on anyone using it yet. You are looking for used? If an older vehicle came with a TH350 originally, most times a 4L60/65/70 will likely fit without too much effort. Whatever setup you get, you will need the Pedal, Tac Module (Depending on year).. and ecu from the pullout. The TCM-2650 Gateway will allow you to adapt the GM 6L45E, 6L50E, 6L80E and 6L90E transmission to all previous Generation GM Engines. 1969 Camaro - LSA 6L90E AME sub/IRS. Nice work man. Inexpensive, powerful, and plentiful, the Gen III and Gen IV small-block Chevy has changed the landscape forever for anyone looking to restore a classic muscle car or build an 80s beater into a world-beater. The 700R4 was renamed the 4L60 in 1990, then evolved into the 4L60E when electronic control was added. More info. What about the shifter. can be used as well. Based around the 4L80E (and fitting wherever a 4L80E will fit), the 6X is a true six-speed transmission that TCI rates at 850-plus horsepower. You will have to use an L92 truck intake, the TBSS truck intake will not work. SKU P-120020 6L80e to 4LXXe Conversion Harness (generic) Categories Camaro V8 2010-2015, Chevy SS 2014-2017, Trans Swap Harnesses, Transmission, Transmission, Transmission, Transmission, Transmission, Transmission, Transmission, Transmission Swap Harnesses. Universal / Standalone Swap Harness. 1969 X66 396 LeMans Blue, M20, 373 (Sold). One question youre going to have to answer when planning your swap, though, is what transmission do I want?. ***FOR SALE***2016 Chevrolet SS 6.2L LS3 Engine w/ 6L80E 6-Speed Automatic Trans 22K MilesVIN: 6G3F15RW5GL203330What's Included:Complete 6.2L LS3 Engine w/ 2. We matched the engines and transmissions for optimal performance and durability, so you can wring out all the horsepower from them with total confidence. I need some real guidance as I'm ready to order the trans this week. Car is at the shop and engine, transmission, gas tank and steering box removed. I suspect he had driveline angle issues. I swapped my 2006 Sierra from a 4L60e to a 4L80e a few years ago and had hptuners do a segment swap and i added the wiring for the rear speed sensor etc so im familiar with the that swap. Both TCI and Chevrolet Performance offer packages to make swaps easier into just about any chassis. Pace Performance is proud to offer performance engines for your GM, Mopar, and Ford street machines! It is an improved design over the Gen3 24x pattern as it removes issues related to "edge swapping" when large camshafts are fitted. The guys seems honest and straightfoward but you can't trust anyone these days Oh and side note I've score a lsa super charger from a local salvage yard for a great deal so its got me all fired up and ready to start my "little" project, Well I picked up the motor last night and im as excited as a kid on Christmas. LS Engine SWAP IN A BOX KIT for LS in 67-69 Camaro or Firebird with Auto Trans Raw Headers Stainless Steel 42211 . The 4L60 and 4L80 families of transmissions are considered the small-block and big-block Chevys of the transmission world Rusty Samples, Chevrolet Performance, Chevy Performances Rusty Sampsel explains the lineage of GMs overdrive automatics: The 4L60/65/70 are basically a TH350 with the overdrive added, and the 4L80/85 are a TH400 with the overdrive added, he explains. They are completely plug and play with four wire hookup (switched power, constant power and ground connections required). Pistons: Hypereutectic Aluminum Interested in any updates on anyone who has done the zerogravityP 6l swap. The Gen V crankshaft is an 8-bolt. GM states, ". Check their website for correct x member. LS3 swap in 3rd gen harness. He is going to build one for me for my swap, their # 765-378-4908 ask for John. Heres what we learned: The TH350, TH400, and Powerglide are a direct bolt-on for an LS engine. MONTE CARLO LS3/6L80 swap. . Read this post guy managed to get it to fit the tunnel. Guide to Swapping an LS3 into your Street/Strip Chevy. Balance: Internal Remote Throttle Position Sensor (Not needed if Fuel Injection already has one). . 2011 Camaro SS LS3 L99 engine w/Automatic 6L80 transmission & computer harness. :beer:After a little more research I believe its a 6l90e if I can get away from these 18 hour workday im gonna check it out:cool4: Well im pulling the trigger and buying both this weekend.been doing research and think the hardest part will be fitting the trans . These can be rebuilt to handle over 1,000 hp. BRAIDED INSTALLED $125 (OUR MOST POPULAR OPTION), BARE HARNESS & DIY BRAID KIT $75 (SAVE $$), Fan controls (Relays and fuse available seperately KIT-1010), Check Engine Light, Speedo output, Tachometer, OBD2 Port, Accelerator Pedal and Throttle Body control (DBW setups). Some folks feel transmissions are nothing more than the rear engine mount, concludes Sampsel. Any tips? Anyone doing a 6l80e swap on a second gen ? It is a heavy-duty version of the 6L80 six-speed automatic, with a strengthened input gearset which has two additional pinion gears for six total, and a strengthened output gearset, that uses wider gears than the . The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I put a 6.2 L L92 with a 4L80E in my 65 SS last summer. VIN: 6G3F15RW5GL203330. Warranty: APPLICATION: 2008 - 2014 CORVETTE, CAMARO, G8 LS3, LS376 480 & 525 ENGINES WITH 6L80E OR 6L90E PARTS INCLUDED: Complete engine wiring Harness, . Even though you cant pop the floor and show off your transmission at the car show [like you can pop your hood to show off the engine], picking the right transmission package for your hot rod is key to enjoying the drive to and from the car show. It required cutting out a big chunk of the transmission hump to get it to fit. We will safeguard your e-mail and only send content you request. FREE 48 State Truck Freight Shipping (International shipping will require freight quote), All Bare, Short, Long & Complete Engines|LS Trans & Engine Packages|6.2L-376 CID Performance Engines|Connect and Cruise Engine Kits|LS3 Crate Trans & Engine|Connect & Cruise Store|Featured Products, Chevy Small Block Crate & Long Block Engines, Chevy Small Block Trans & Engine Packages, License Plate and License Plate Accessories, Computer Chip/Programmer/Performance Module, Crate Engines, Bare Blocks and Long Blocks, Exhaust/Exhaust Components/Heat Protection, LTx Performance (Gen V) Performance Parts. We promise not to use your email address for anything but exclusive updates from the Power Automedia Network. We offer LS and LT swap conversion harnesses for all LS / LT engines including LS1, LS2, LS3, LS6, LS7, LSA, LS9, LQ4, LQ6, L99, Gen 5 V8, LT1, LT4, Vortec L83 L86 variants. 6L80E / 6L90E. Thanks for the response ill see if i can post up pics at another site. Also, a paddle shift option :biggrin2: QUIET, YOU!! If youre doing something like an LS1 install, and have the complete engine, 4L60/4L80transmission, and factory ECU and harness package, using the OEM computer to control the transmission is the obvious choice. I'm going with a gen 5 454 and I'm trying to decide between a 700R4 and the 6L80E. DRIVE BY WIRE ONLY. Fortunately, there are a lot of good choices available, whether youre looking for a bulletproof three-speed for the dragstrip, a long-legged overdrive for the highway, or something in between. My 4L65 is plenty strong but I need another high gear - I'm at 2200 cruising at 70 while I think most M6s are around 1800. Also, did a compression test. Easy Bolt-In Installation of Your Engine. They are somewhat massive, but it still somewhat boils down to exactly where you fit your particular setup. After some close calls on the street in his late teens and early twenties, Paul Huizenga discovered organized drag racing and never looked back, becoming a SFI-Certified tech inspector and avid bracket racer. Nov 26, 2010 243 Walpole Massachusetts. $719.00. Ignition Coils, Plug Wires and Spark Plugs The new Camaros with a LS3 weigh in around 4,000lbs. 2016 Chevrolet SS 6.2L LS3 Engine w/ 6L80E 6-Speed Automatic Trans 22K Miles. A forum for all things Trailblazer SS including mileage, horsepower, transmissions, interior mods, tires and more! Sadly, I just realized this Escalade has the 6L80 transmission and I'm definitely wanting the 6L90. Braided Loom: No, Yes. 2007 and newer have the correct ECM calibration. Would be great to see a build thread with a 6l80e , ill be doing one when i have everything, yes posting several clear pictures , and all the details and part numbers that apply to installing that transmission in your corvette, with that engine,here, would be very helpful. LS3 packages do not include fuel rail covers, exhaust manifolds, downpipes, or catalytic converters. What happens to the cluster indicator? APPLICATION: 2008 - 2014 CORVETTE, CAMARO, G8 LS3, LS376 480 & 525 ENGINES WITH 6L80E OR 6L90E, PARTS INCLUDED: Complete engine wiring Harness, Instruction Manual. Try doing a search on the site. The LT's factory flexplate is designed for use with the latest six- and eight-speed transmissions. Of course, anyone contemplating an LS swap probably already knows that the devil is in the details; as weve seen, there arent any real show-stoppers when it comes to running either a carbureted or EFI LS engine with any of GMs popular three- or four-speed automatics, but every installation is going to be different in its particulars. Engine harness for LS2/LS3 Vortec 58 tooth engine shown. /jerk, Jesse, this is quite an accomplishment. Especially since everyone doubted it could be done (at least at a semi-reasonable cost). What year is it? 427 bbc build? Maximum GM Recommended RPM: 6600. LS3/6L80 (430 HP) Alternative Views: Our Price: $ Please call us at (765) 378-4908 to order engine packages. A stock 700R4/4L60E will be limited to around 450 horsepower. Its very important to flush the transmission cooling system when swapping from one transmission to the next, warns Winstead. ..im ready to start the transplant. has any member done this yet to a tbss.i would love some feed back on this swap to your set up How would this compare in strength to the 4l80E?
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